Any connection between the massacre at the Emanuel AME Church and the Confederate flag is, of course, indirect. So don’t consider this article about that vile act. People have been talking about the Confederate flag and that’s a good thing. But I will repeat what I’ve said many times over the last several years: I hate the Confederate flag. As I wrote back in January, “Martin Luther King Jr was born and raised in Georgia. Yet I’ve never seen anyone wearing a t-shirt with his image as an act of ‘southern pride.’ No. ‘Southern pride’ is always expressed with the Confederate flag, Stonewall Jackson, or Robert E Lee.”
There is no doubt that the Confederate flag is a racist symbol. But again, let’s leave that aside. As we all know, most of the people fighting for the Confederacy were not slave owners. But beyond slavery, the Civil War was the answer to a great question: is our allegiance to our state or our country? And the answer to that was resounding: it is to the country. States have lots of nice things and they have control over certain aspects of government. But we are all Americans and to put South Carolina above the United States is an act of treason.
But like I said, that was an arguable question 150 years ago. And that’s perhaps why the liberals of that time said to the south, “Welcome back!” There was no punishment. Even the President of the Confederacy — a man who under most circumstances would have been hanged along with many others — spent just two years in federal custody and then went on to have a successful life, dying rich and having a huge public funeral. This was the early version of Obama’s looking forward. And the conservatives responded to that the same way they responded to Obama’s mercy.
As the Union moved on and forgot about the Civil War, the south did not move on. Instead, it wrapped itself in the flag of the Confederacy. It created myths about the righteousness of its cause. And so every time southerners bring out the flag, they are saying, “We were right!” It is not even a question of them trying to claim that they weren’t traitors — which they most clearly were. That would be understandable — especially if people commonly talked about the treasonous Robert E Lee. But they don’t. In fact, he is widely seen as a hero, much to my personal disgust. And these people are not asking for absolution for their forefathers’ treason.
But the people who continue to wrap themselves in the Confederate flag are the same people who claim to have some kind of a monopoly on the “real” America. Yet they clearly don’t care about America as it is. It is instead “America.” And that’s why we get this nonsense from the supposed Constitutional Conservatives that “the powers not expressly delegated to the United States” are given to the states. Except that isn’t what the Constitution says. That’s what the Articles of Confederation said, and what the south tried to re-establish when it revolted against the United States.
To me, the Confederate flag is very simple: it is the flag of a failed country that attacked the United States and started the most deadly war we have ever had in terms of our own casualties. Almost half the population of North Dakota are people of German descent. Would anyone find it acceptable for the state to fly the Nazi flag? Even apart from its obvious racism and offensiveness to Jews (and basically everyone else), it would be offensive to the very idea of the United States of America. It would be like having a Fort Rommel.
Yet there the Confederate flag is. I live in liberal northern California and I still see it everywhere. I’m not suggesting that people shouldn’t be allowed to display the flag. But I am saying that we should treat people who display it the same way we treat people sporting Nazi tattoos.
C’mon…it would not have been quite unfair to use a graphic of the Confederate Flag with “Vote Republican” splayed across it……maybe in a followup article.
Additionally, if I recall correctly, it was the prominence of said flag which most bothered you at the NASCAR event you attended at Sears Point…..which could warrant mention, as well.
Indeed: NASCAR Culture and Sport
I’m afraid that in my mind there is such a tight link between the Confederate flag and the Republican Party that it doesn’t even occur to me. It’s really bizarre too, given that it was exactly the opposite at the time.
You know, as much as i see your point, having been raised in the south and to respect everyone under a symbol with a dark history, I believe the people make the symbol not the other way around. If you ever get to spend time in the south you’ll realize how wrong you are. The media always shows you the most ignorant 2% of any demographic. Maybe its just me but when you think about the stereotypes for any people the only ones that fit them are that 2%. Not the majoraty. To me it represents a hospitable easy going way of life. Teaching kids the value of respect, sacrifice and hardwork. As a southerner, someone who learned about MLK and Frederick Douglas amongst others and full heartedly agree with and respect them, dont discount an entire people over the few you hear about on the news. That would be ignorant and closed minded.
I have spent time in the south. There is so much for all regions of the south to be proud of. The flag remains because bigotry remains.
You have no idea what it means, only what you think it means, you’re what’s called, stupid.
I know what it means to African Americans. I know that the Confederate flag has been used as part of a campaign of terror against African Americans. I know that Confederate monuments were almost entirely built to push against the attempt of African Americans to get their Constitutional rights.
What does it mean to you who is so craven you can’t even enter your real identity? Would I be wrong to say that you’re what’s called a bigot?
It means traitorous racism ya traitorous racist.
It’s sad. I really don’t think this comment would have been posted if Trump were not our president. It’s not that this country wasn’t always deeply racist, but there is something to be said for norms that keep bigots silent. Trump has made bigotry acceptable. It really is worse than the Bushes who at least had enough shame to pretend that they weren’t vile racists. I am open to the argument that it is better to have bigotry out in the open. But it embarrasses us in an official way. And it brings out vile displays of public hatred like “Noneya Business.” It’s telling that they can manage to spell words correctly but not treat fellow humans with respect. I’m sure they too are a very stable genius.
Quite literally, treason. And the notion that bosses should be able to own their workers. Hundreds of thousands of poor Southerners died believing that, someday, they too would be rich enough to own slaves.
Southerners are still pissed about this, and still blame the wrong people (anti-slavery advocates) instead of the rich guys who got poor guys to die in a war by lying to them.
America is fun, no?