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Aug 01

It’s Embarrassing to Have Trump as President

President Donald TrumpSo I deal with foreign countries, and despite what you may read I have unbelievable relationships with all of the foreign leaders. They like me. I like them. You know, it’s amazing. So I’ll call, like, major‚ major countries, and I’ll be dealing with the prime minister or the president. And I’ll say, how are you doing? Oh, don’t know, don’t know, not well, Mr President, not well. I said, well, what’s the problem?

Oh, GDP 9 percent, not well. And I’m saying to myself, here we are at like 1 percent, dying, and they’re at 9 percent and they’re unhappy. So, you know, and these are like countries, you know, fairly large, like 300 million people. You know, a lot of people say — they say, well, but the United States is large. And then you call places like Malaysia, Indonesia, and you say, you know, how many people do you have? And it’s pretty amazing how many people they have. So China’s going to be at 7 or 8 percent, and they have a billion-five, right? So we should do really well.

–President Donald Trump
Trump’s Wall Street Journal interview

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  1. mike shupp

    Bear in mind 35-40% of the electorate think he’s doing just fine, that he’s a normal or even better than normal President with better than average leadership abilities and executive skills. Other than losing WW 3, it’s hard to imagine that changing. Donald Trump is as wonderful for the average Republican as say Barak Obama was for ordinary Democrats.

    From which it follows, I greatly fear, that Trump’s presidency will likely be ruled as “successful” or as much a failure as Obama’s term in office, that future historians are apt to treat leaders with equal amounts of praise and censure, that school children are equally as likely to be taught to mourn their demise, than foreign leaders looking back in retrospect will appraise them as equals.

    He may not be generally loved but Trump will escape the “public enemy” status that Richard Nixon earned.

    This is not my happiest thought of the week.

    1. Frank Moraes

      Well, it’s only been six months. Give the man time! I understand that roughly a third of the country thinks he’s peachy. But this is due to the fact that he is adored by Republicans. I think his approval among Republicans is 72% — or higher. I figure these are the people who have Fox News on 24 hours a day. In my experience, there is always roughly a third of the country that will be in favor of the most ridiculous things. So I’m not particularly bothered by this. I think Trump will look even worse in retrospect. Like George W Bush, most Republicans will come to regret ever supporting him.

      1. Jurgan

        Trump’s support is still high among Republicans, but the number of “strong supporters” has dropped since he became president. Someone usually shifts from strong support to weak support before reaching opposition. While it’s unrealistic to expect Trump to cross some magical “line” where everyone turns on him, there is attrition of his base.

        1. Frank Moraes

          That’s good to hear. And there’s a lot that can happen in 3.5 years. Of course, it could go everywhere. My greatest concern is that we will have a major terrorist attack and then everyone will line up behind Trump. As you probably recall, George W Bush had low approval ratings until 9/11. I still think it is amazing that when a president screws up and allows an attack, he is rewarded for it.

    2. James Fillmore

      I keep thinking about Nixon. There are obvious parallels. Both considered themselves demeaned by the elite establishment, both used coded racist fears to bolster their electoral chances, both staffed their administrations with hapless thugs, both considered the Presidency something of an award you win in the Game Of Life, neither cared a damn about the law.

      But Nixon was actually an intelligent man. More sociopathic than psychopathic. I’m thinking of his late-nite wander to meet with anti-war protesters. He genuinely did not get where they were coming from, and wanted them to love him. Trump keeps holding fascist rallies in front of screaming hordes he loathes. He despises his supporters, as they are not rich. He despises everyone and everything except himself.

      And the whole bit where he shits all over his kids, except his daughter he creepily calls attention to, and her husband who’s been given more laurels than Ben-Hur? Any social-service worker would see this as red flags up the wazoo. That this slime-ridden joke from the 1980s is President testifies to how badly the Democratic Party has failed to deliver anything for anyone in decades. But they still party in the Hampton with potential big donors. Clink, clink, the cocktail glasses go.

      1. Frank Moraes

        That is definitely true: both Nixon and Trump had/have chips on their shoulders.

        Jared Kushner in the White House reminds me very much of this That Mitchel and Web Look skit:

  2. FDChief

    And the fact that all those meatheads love this meathead?

    (And it’s hard to support the conclusion that “This guy is something other than a total meathead” when it’s blazingly, blindingly obvious that the meathead – whose supposed fame is as a “businessman” – HAS NO IDEA how economic growth works. Literally. He’s like a Pacific Islander who thinks that the Big Metal Bird brings Cargo.)

    Let’s just say that the supposed Franklin quote about “…a republic, if you can keep it.” comes to mind.

    1. Frank Moraes

      Well, at least the Cargo Cult folks had actual experience. The cargo plains had at one time come. Plus, they weren’t educated. Trump has no excuse for being so ignorant. Wharton must be so proud!

      But just to be clear: the embarrassment is not over Trump himself — it is over the fact that our country elected him president.

      1. FDChief

        I’d say there’s room for both.

        Good point on cargo. Yeah, the natives of Bora-Bora had a reason to believe in the Magic Sky God. This dope is proudly ignorant by choice. If you have the stomach read the transcript of his phone calls with Pena Nieto and Turnbull. The ignorance (and bellicosity and meaching oily craven pandering) is startling. I wouldn’t put this guy in charge of a raffle, let alone a superpower.

        And the dopes that love him? They, too, choose to ignore this stuff.

        1. James Fillmore

          What boggles my mind most about Trump is the political ignorance of his voters. That’s been around since Reagan’s day. The fallacy of “guy who talks regular, not like them politics folks” being on the side of Average Jane/Joe, when all they’ll actually do is sell America off to the highest bidder. People have bought this dreck for decades.

          No, what blows me away is how they can look at Trump and not realize how deeply untrustworthy he is. It has to do with the fracturing of communities and death of unions, I suspect. Since there are fewer social bonds these days, we’ve diminished our ability to spot liars a mile off. It’s the same phenomenon that makes TV hucksters like the Duck Dynasty folks and televangelists filthy rich. We’re right back to being the suckers and chumps Mencken ripped on in the 1920s. The GOP played a long game getting to this point, and Democrats did little to stop it.

          1. Frank Moraes

            My feeling is that they know he’s a con man — or at least a lot of them do. But he’s their con man. Just like a lot of them loved Stephen Colbert because they thought he was doing a double parody, these people think they are on the inside. So the people who are conned the most are the ones who think they are most immune to it. Nothing unusual about that.

        2. Frank Moraes

          I did read the Turnbull call. Mostly I was filled with embarrassment. You know, even while I was embarrassed by George W Bush, I knew that the Republicans would eventually give us a president that would embarrass me even more. And as bad as Trump is, I’m sure they will come up with someone worse.

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